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Puri Conversation
More material advancement means more dependence - more rascaldom.

Bhaktivinod Thakur: Jeev ke kare khaad - jeeva will become more ass.

Bakhand - duck after bull's testicle, thinking it is fish and it will fall. This is what scientist.

Time Kala is synonym of nature.

Even material world is eternal, it comes and goes, comes and goes.

Cloud of mahat-tattva is made of modes of nature. these clouds will over a part of spiritual sky.

Kala is not part of mahat tattva and it is a seperate energy of the lord. It is the one that moves matter.



I am spirit soul, how am i moving my hand which is material? it is being delivered by Kala.

Lord does not enjoy our body like we enjoy. He enjoys, when we enjoy our body falsely as master of body. We cannot understand his enjoyment.

Every body is looking for power, enjoyment.

Energy and power is very real in this material world. All shakti power comes from shaktimaan.

Without power none of the desires can be achieved. Every body is sanctioned certain frozen power when created and kala will unwind it for you.

We falsely thinks that we are the owner of this power.

Devotee won't hanker for power. He don't have agenda for maya person. He is only having agenda for soul person.

To fulfill the agenda of Krishna, Krishna will give the power.

Due to sinful activities there is lack of power. Kala is acting on us.

Big scientist say in future they will be able to control Kala. He will be given chance in million of lives and trillion of years, after that he will become a banyan tree.

Everybody will grow against his desire. This is another force acting.

Kala-sarpa is like a cobra. But cobra can be charmed by snake charmer.

Kala affects material energy and delivers it to the soul.

Parmatma can interfere into kala, but only in the case of devotees. He will change his bad karma to good. Only for exceptional things, Kala consults Supersoul, it is otherwise programmed. The proof is that when we come to Krishna Consciousness means somewhere karma is changed.

In Mahabharat also he keeps Kala to act now and then. But to protect his devotees, he will put his hand now and then.

Krishna keeps the karma of devotee whatever is required.

He gives intelligence to devotee to overcome the kala. He will not remove obstacles, he will stand as our friend to Overcome obstacles. Thus we will develop friendship with him.

He gives intelligence to overcome in day to day life of devotees(Buddhi yogam).

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First qualify yourself to marry.

One life remain brahmachari and solve all your problems.

Material qualities are representation of spiritual qualities.

Lord cannot be affected with these material qualities.

Knowledge-satoguna, activities Rajoguna, matter-Tamoguna

Mistake-we see matter as vastu -substance. we see different people as different. Spiritual world also different people are different.

Everything in spiritual world is an identity. Everything in material world is dead.

Soul cannot be destroyed, nor his tendency of enjoyment can be killed.

Rajoguna we will develop formulas. A+B=Ananda all this is mapped in the chitta. Mapping and equating for pleasure.

This world is the prison house. in prison house also their is staying, promotion and demotion.

We engage in practical devotional service to give pleasure to Krishna.

Satguna: persons follows vedic principles and live life. They will hanker for liberation. He is not after power and money.

Rajogana: He is after temporary happiness- power and money. WIIIFM rule in it.

Tamoguna: Result may come may not come.

Most basic tamoguna is: This world is real. Every body is under it.

Your viewpoint of this material world depends on the mixing of gunas.

The man in satoguna knows the purpose. He believes that action is meant for liberation.

Rajoguna person thinks that action is meant for sense gratification.

Tamoguna: He dont have these two ideas. He doesn't see relative connections. He does not know anything. He is completely under sense perception. He becomes lazy inactive and depressed.

Sense gratification ends up very painful and frustrated.

NOV-15-LIVE-HG-MPD SB-2.5.18 - There is no substance in material energy, it only has effects.

If you cannot percieve anything, accept the authority.

Two things we can challange to the scientist:
1. How life came into existance and
2. How this planetary system came.

sattavam rajas tama iti
nirgunasya gunas traya
sthiti sarga nirodheshu
grihita mayayo vibho

Translation:
The Supreme Lord is pure spiritual form, transcendental to all material qualities, yet for the sake of the creation of the material world and its maintenance and annihilation, He accepts through His external energy the material modes of nature called goodness, passion and ignorance.

Every body is affected by three modes of nature, which are qualities energy of the lord.

We are knower who is knowing the field of energy and he sees and gets entangled. But lord does not get entangled.

There is a substance and there is a quality. ex. fire and light.

Material energy does not have variety or intelligence, but it is real energy of the lord. Just like watching permutation and combination of different colours of lights.

Accepts the material qualities To duplicate the spiritual qualities (perverted version) for Jivas.

Soul has gyanendriya and karmendriya. They will be situated in mixture of the gunas(contaminated state)

There is no substance but only Qualities exists in material nature.

Pradhana

Material energy will have an effect. effect has definite beginning and end (temporary). Gunas are not substance but the effects.  Substance is eternal. effects are changing.

• Body is flux of atom and always changing is sattva guna.
• To know soul is transcendental to material gunas is Shuddha sattva.
• Considering this world and body as real and permanent is tamoguna.
• To try to control the energy is Rajoguna.

Three modes of material nature does not affect pure devotee. They know that it is play of nature.

Self centered activity is Rajoguna. Activity itself is not rajoguna.

What contradicts three gunas is trancedental knowledge.

He will live feel and see the material energy but he will not get affected by them. Here body is different and hand is diffrent. In spiritual world, body and hands are all conscious of themsleves.

Q. How the material energy Kshetra and spirit soul Kshetragya relate to. or how spirit soul accepts the modes of nature-the technique behind it?
A. Link is the supersoul. He translates the matter to Gunas for Jiva. Thus he enables Jiva to read life elements

Krishna is God, this Conviction is there in field. Not in the soul initially.When body is purified, conviction vibrates and nishtha comes and in this way soul is convinced.

Wood is substance and its effects are quality is wrong conception. Wood is in itself a quality. Substance should last eternally. Considering body is substance is bondage and considering it a quality is liberation. Vasudeva sarvam iti. Every thing is Vasudev and his energies.

Mayavadis says everything is illusion, but the Vaishnavas says that every thing is real energy of the lord.


Idea of "material substance" as a substance itself is an effect.